RFC 250 UNKNOWN FILE TRANSFER · PROTOCOLS

Some thoughts on file transfer

UCLA-NMC identifies ambiguities found while implementing draft transfer protocols.

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PUBLISHED
October 1971
AUTHORS
H. Brodie
STREAM
Legacy
PROPOSED SEQUENCE NUMBER
8 bits
PROPOSED HEADER SIZE
48 bits
DOI
10.17487/RFC0250

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Network Working Group                             H. Brodie
Request for Comments #250                         UCLA-NMC
NIC #7691                                         Computer Science
Categories:  D5, D7                               7 October 71
Updates:  None
Obsoletes:  None

                     Some Thoughts on File Transfer

   There are several aspects of the proposed Data Transfer Protocol (RFC
   #171) and File Transfer Protocol (RFC #172) which we believe could
   use further clarification and perhaps revision.  Interest in
   transferring larger amounts of data than is typically sent via the
   usual TELNET connection is increasing, and at least at UCLA-NMC
   implementation attempts have pointed out several difficulties with
   the proposed protocols.

   First, and probably most easily decided, is the ambiguity in RFC #171
   with regards to the sequence number field of the descriptor and count
   transaction.  The description provided for the transaction header
   provides for 16 bit sequence number.  However, the sequence number
   field in the error codes transaction only provides for 8 bits.  We
   are of the opinion that 8 bits is sufficient for a sequence number
   field.  If the sequence number is reduced to 8 bits, and the two NUL
   bytes are deleted from the descriptor and count header, then its size
   is reduced to 48 bits, which would seem to be as convenient to handle
   as the proposed 72 bit transaction header.

   Another source of difficulty lies in the implementation of the (the
   SEX time-sharing system) the 'end' of a file (which presumably would
   be the begin point of an Append transaction) is almost com- pletely
   context-defined--i.e., the program reading the file determines when
   it has reached the end of the file.  Therefore, the meaning of
   'Append' is somewhat hazy, and since the proposed Mail Box Protocol
   uses the Append feature, not implementing this command in a File
   Transfer service is costly in terms of lost useability.

   We believe that resolution of these ambiguities will lead to a
   greatly accelerated implementation schedule, at least here at UCLA-
   NMC.

       [ This RFC was put into machine readable form for entry ]
       [ into the online RFC archives by BBN Corp. under the   ]
       [ direction of Alex McKenzie.                   12/96   ]

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PROBLEMImplementation attempts exposed ambiguities in the proposed Data Transfer and File Transfer Protocols.
MECHANISMUCLA-NMC discusses inconsistent sequence-number sizes and unclear meaning for the Append transaction.
IMPLEMENTATION FEEDBACKThe author argues that resolving these questions would help accelerate implementation at UCLA-NMC.

§1Implementation Experience

UCLA-NMC had attempted to implement the proposed Data Transfer Protocol and File Transfer Protocol as interest grew in transferring more data than typical Telnet exchanges. The work revealed issues that the RFC asks protocol designers to clarify.

UCLA-NMC tried to build the proposed transfer protocols and found unclear points. This RFC shares those implementation observations.

§2Sequence Number Size

The RFC says RFC 171 describes a 16-bit sequence-number field in a descriptor and count transaction but provides only 8 bits in the error-codes transaction. The author considers 8 bits sufficient and suggests removing two NUL bytes from the descriptor and count header, reducing it to 48 bits.

Different transactions use different sizes for the sequence number. The author suggests using 8 bits and removing two NUL bytes to make the header smaller.

§3Meaning of Append

At UCLA's SEX timesharing system, the program reading a file determines when it has reached the file's end. The author says this makes the meaning of Append unclear, particularly because the proposed Mail Box Protocol uses the Append feature.

The RFC argues that resolving these ambiguities could accelerate implementation at UCLA-NMC.

The system may let a reading program decide when a file ends, which leaves Append unclear. The author says this matters because the mailbox proposal relies on Append.